Recommended Books

[Pegasus]

I highly recommend the book, Prolegomena to the Study of Greek Religion by Jane Ellen Harrison.

Below the book title and author in Google Books, there's a box next to the Contents link. Type page number 524 in place of iii and start reading (Orphic Mysteries). That's just where I started reading. Now I know where Iacchus got the username of liknites in one of the forums. There are references to Iacchus, the winnowing fan and the "mystic fan of Iacchus" through page 534. There are references to either Iacchus or Iacchos at least through pg. 548 and beyond. You need to do a separate search with both spellings using the letter "L" instead of "I" - a search for Lacchus and another search for Lacchos (also the lower case).

If you search for all instances of Iacchus or Iacchos within the book, you need to type Iacchus spelled with a small L or a capital L instead of an I (don't know why). It doesn't recognize it spelled with an " I " in the box near the top of the page that says "Search in this book." Just type over the words.

http://books.google.com/books?id=kLY...age&q=&f=false

Also found here:

http://www.archive.org/details/prolegomenatostu00harr

The book is also in Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Prolegomena-St...1317017&sr=8-1

I like this from the same author, Jane Ellen Harrison (especially the first one). It immediately put me in mind of Iacchus posting in the forums, "a star bringing light to the darkness...."

The most famous mention of Iacchus is in the Frogs of Aristophanes, where the Mystae invoke him as a riotous dancer in the meadow, attended by the Charities, who 'tosses torches' and is likened to a star bringing light to the darkness of the rites (Harrison, p. 540).

Iacchus' identification with Dionysus is demonstrated in a variety of sources. In a Paean to Dionysus discovered at Delphi, the god is described as being named Iacchos at Eleusis, where he "brings salvation" (Harrison, p. 541).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iacchus

[Pegasus]

I'm glad I'm not the only one with a curiosity about winnowing fans. I wanted to know what it looked like and I found an article in a blog with many references to author Jane Ellen Harrison. It is evident that the writer has a great deal of respect for the author. I ordered the book last week.

The Winnowing-Fan.

The poet sang, as we have seen, that 'another wayfarer, on meeting thee, shall say that thou hast a winnowing-fan on thy stout shoulder'. The mystery of this passage was longwhiles augmented for me by my utter ignorance in the matter of winnowing-fans. What is a winnowing-fan? It took me a surprisingly long time to find out. The Greek word is αθηρηλοιγον (athereloigon)—an oracular periphrasis, literally meaning 'consumer of chaff', and attested only here. Later commentators unanimously identified the athereloigon as a ptuon, with the normal sense of 'shovel'. So now we turn to two exquisite articles by the great Jane Ellen Harrison (Journal of Hellenic Studies, 1903 and 1904), in which are discussed, at great but untedious length, ancient methods of winnowing crops.

http://vunex.blogspot.com/2006/11/un...t-part-ii.html

There are references to winnowing fans in the Bible:

His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.” ~ Luke 3:17

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/...n=1&spanend=73

http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/...searchtype=all

From another blog:

WINNOWING

It is a beautiful word, isn't it? Say it out loud. “Winnowing.” The act of separating the grain from the chaff, wherein the fruits of labor are sifted from the waste. The harvest is gathered and purified giving sustenance now and seeds for the next season. Gathered. Separated. Purified. A person unfamiliar with the term would never guess the underlying struggle, even violence, from the sound of the word: winnowing.

http://westernchauvinist.blogspot.com/


Separating the Wheat from the Chaff

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/...rom-chaff.html
http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/200...ial-media.html

[Pegasus]

An excerpt from Catena Aurea: Commentary on the Four Gospels, Collected Out of the Works of the Fathers, Volume 1, Part 1, Gospel of Matthew by St. Thomas Aquinas. I found it when I trying to distinguish the difference between the chaff and the tares.

The cleansing of the floor will finally be accomplished when the Son of Man shall send His Angels, and shall gather all offences out of His kingdom. After the threshing is finished in this life, in which the grain now groans under the burden of the chaff, the fan of the last judgment shall so separate between them, that neither shall any chaff pass into the granary, nor shall the grain fall into the fire which consumes the chaff; the wheat, i.e. the full and perfect fruit of the believer, he declares, shall be laid up in heavenly barns; by the chaff he means the emptiness of the unfruitful. There is this difference between the chaff and the tares, that the chaff is produced of the same seed as the wheat, but the tares from one of another kind. The chaff therefore are those who enjoy the sacraments of the faith, but are not solid; the tares are those who in profession as well as in works are separated from the lot of the good.

http://books.google.com/books?id=UQ4...0chaff&f=false

[Pegasus]

And since I'm on the subject of tares, I looked up the Parable of the Tares:

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. ~ Matthew 13:24-30

The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. ~ Matthew 13:38-42

[Pegasus]

The book by Jane Ellen Harrison is also in Bulfinch's Mythology:

http://bulfinch.englishatheist.org/proleg/index.htm

[Pegasus]

Anyone interested in winnowing wheat? Hard work never killed anyone.



http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/...rom-chaff.html

Speaking of hard work, here's Al Fulchino showing off his muscular arms while tending his vineyard. He mixed it in with some other photos but it's obvious that he was showing off his physique. Just kidding.

Watch that ego, Al!

http://www.activeboard.com/download....293&aBID=12195

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...rt=oldestFirst
http://www.fulchinovineyard.com/

[Pegasus]

Originally Posted by Pegasus

The book by Jane Ellen Harrison is also in Bulfinch's Mythology:

http://bulfinch.englishatheist.org/proleg/index.htm

I posted a link to the book, "Prolegomena to the Study of Greek Religion" earlier but here is a chapter where Iacchus is mentioned quite extensively. If you click on Edit and Find, type Iacchus as Lacchus (with an L, upper case) or lacchus (with an L, lower case) as that is just the way it appears in the text. The name is given as both Lacchus (with a U) and Lacchos (with an O) within the chapter. To find everything pertaining to Iacchus, you'll need to type it with both spellings. There is more about Iacchus elsewhere in the book but I'm just posting a link to this particular chapter.

You'll notice that it mentions the winnowing fan and liknon and liknites. Iacchus used "Liknites" as a username in one of the discussion forums elsewhere.

http://bulfinch.englishatheist.org/proleg/Chapter10.htm

[Iacchus32]

Hey, that's strange. Sounds like whoever edited the book didn't know much about it ... unless of course it's a standard spelling?

[Pegasus]

Originally Posted by Iacchus32

Hey, that's strange. Sounds like whoever edited the book didn't know much about it ... unless of course it's a standard spelling?

I think it has more to do with the type font used. In Arial, the Letter 'I' doesn't really look like the letter 'I" as in Times New Roman. In Arial, it looks more like an l, so within the document, it's recognized as an L instead of an I.

Iacchus - Times New Roman
Iacchus - Arial

[Iacchus32]

Yeah, but it's a computer generated image, so it shouldn't make any difference what font you use ... unless of course, like I say, it's misspelled.